We haven’t gone in for form prompts very much in this community, but I like them. If ever I'm stuck with my writing, I find turning to form usually helps, so it's handy to have a few under my belt to choose from.
So I’ll be giving you some form prompts now and again, just because I can. If you can't stand them, don't worry – I’ll make sure to include a different option for you.
Meanwhile – what’s the difference between found poems and erasures? Aren’t they the same thing?
Well I guess it’s fair to say that all erasures are found poems but not all found poems are erasures. (This may not be new information to you, but in case it is for some, please bear with me.)
In fact, found poetry is not so much a form as a method. It can take any form, as you'll see. But though it may look like free verse (unless it doesn't) it is arrived at differently. There are two main methods.
A found poem is a set of words you find somewhere, not originally intended as a poem, but in which you see or ‘find’ the poem that hides there. With the non-erasure kind, the words will be close together, the poem discoverable in the particular sequence.
With this kind of poem, you must acknowledge the source. (It can often – though not necessarily – be a literary text.) Your own authorship lies in spotting the unintended poem in the first place and then arranging it into lines of verse. You might also make small changes to punctuation and even smaller ones to word order. The crux of it is in what you leave out. You take away the background, so as to reveal the poem.
In this case you don’t need to erase the surrounding words; you simply extract the ones you choose, copying just those without all the others. I sometimes mine my own writings – old journal entries, or those poem drafts that never quite worked.
You can even find a poem in something someone says aloud. (Then you have to make sure to jot it down while you still remember it.)
There’s a facebook group called Found Haiku, where all the haiku are made by this method. However, found poems can take any form that works.
This is the kind of found poem I love to play with. Here are the first I ever found – and yes, they are haiku:
from The Snow Leopard by Peter Matthiessen (Harvill ed., 1996)
The deep muttering
of Boulders in Black River –
why am I uneasy?
Sunrays glance from snow,
black choughs dance over the void,
I pay attention.
An erasure – a form made famous by Austin Kleon’s ‘blackout poems’ from newspapers – is when you actively erase printed words (blacking them out, whiting them out, or even using colour). The words you leave un-erased make the poem. It’s recommended that you look through a text, draw a box around words you want to keep and then use a marker to obliterate all the others.
In this kind of found poem the words may be very far apart on the page before your mind sees connections. It’s more arbitrary than the other method, and you have much more authorial control, because this time it’s not just a matter of coming across words which already work beautifully together, but of selecting the words in such a way that you make them work. The possibilities in one page of text could be many and varied.
This is not a method I’ve had a lot of success with, but our Magaly is brilliant at it, as you’ve no doubt observed from time to time, and so is J.I. Kleinberg whom I’ve featured here in the past. They take the basic method in their own directions. I asked them both to explain, for this post, how they go about it.
Here’s my email exchange with Magaly:
I'm always intrigued by your erasure poems. I'd love it if you could tell me how you find the raw material, the sources of the words.
My raw material is usually damaged books. But, in the past, I've also created blackouts from books gifted to me by authors who wished me to make blackouts from their words.
Do you use just any old random piece of print, or do you look for things which seem interesting in themselves and/or on topic.
I do both.
Or do you not have a topic in mind when you begin, but let that be guided by the source material (and your unconscious)?
Sometimes, I pick a page and let the muse go wild. Other times, I grab a page with a topic in mind, and let the words guide the muse.
When I asked her about the damaged books, she explained they are old library books being thrown out.
Then, as you’ll have observed, she sometimes turns them into new art objects by means of stitching, and/or expands on them to create a new text. Have a look at her blog post here, where it's well worth following her own link to see step-by-step photos of her stitched blackout process. Quite fascinating!
And here is one that became expanded.
Judy (publishing as J.I. at her blog, chocolate is a verb) – who has made a veritable career of erasures, though also being a visual artist as well – went into even more detail. I was interested to find she uses discarded library materials too (though not books). I asked her the same questions as Magaly. And I added:
Then, what dictates the way you present them? Is that where the words would have been in relation to each other in the original? And how do you arrive at the green background? It looks as if the words are placed on it, but maybe you impose it around them.
Thanks for asking...
Because this actually makes more sense when you see it, I'm attaching a few images by way of illustration:
-- my work table
-- one of my found poems, 'at its heart'
-- a magazine page where you can see the first block of words in their native habitat
I work strictly with magazines -- no books, no newspapers, no direct mail, though of course those are all legitimate sources. I NEVER use other people's poetry.
My magazines come from the 'free' bin at the local library, which I miss acutely since the library is still closed.
Over time, I've found that some magazines are better resources and some are definitely not. No magazine is off limits, but what I'm looking for is interesting language and there are a lot of magazines that have a sort of cheerful, dumbed-down voice that is pretty useless.
At any given time, I might have 20 to 50 poems started (that's what's scattered all over the table), i.e., I've found some blocks of words that seem to resonate with one another but haven't found the final pieces that will bring it all together. So, as I'm looking for words, I have those beginnings somewhere in my consciousness, but I never set out to find specific words to fit -- that simply doesn't work. Sometimes I find that ah-ha piece, but more often I find something new that suddenly makes me think of other words I've already harvested and then a poem comes together.
What I'm looking for is NOT other people's gorgeous lines and language, but places where, through the accident of magazine-page design, words stack up unexpectedly to create new meaning. (You can see that in the magazine page I've attached.) The found words must be entirely removed from their original sense and syntax, leaving no attributable phrases.
When I started this crazy thing nearly ten years ago, I pasted the first few onto this green paper stock, a letter-size sheet cut into quarters, and I've stuck with that paper and size, which sort of dictates the length of the poems. When I find the 3 or 4 or 5 fragments that will go together, I often do a lot of shuffling to find the order I want them in, but what I'm looking for is a visual cascade, where each contiguous block of text is roughly the equivalent of a poetic line and the cascade sort of shows you how to read the poem.
The finished poems are scanned at high resolution, and what you see online is a low-resolution version, cropped to eliminate a lot of the extra green.
Many thanks to Magaly and Judy for so generously sharing their fascinating processes. I'm in awe of their artistry and patience! You can find more of their work on Bloglovin' and on Instagram.
And now, dear wordsmiths, I offer you the chance to try some brand-new (though the source can be as old as you like) found poetry of your own – which might or might not be an erasure poem; that’s up to you.
Or, if that doesn’t grab you, you may write (in any form you like) on the subject of finding or losing, or about erasing something. If it’s prose you like, please keep it within 369 words excluding title.
Some prose writers 'find' their stories by using newspaper headlines or whole articles as sources of inspiration. You may do that too if you wish. If so, please tell us your source.
Drop your links in the slot below, maybe say G’day (or anything else on your mind) in a comment, and enjoy each other’s writings!
Material shared here is presented for study and review. Poems, photos, and other writings and images remain the property of the copyright owners, usually the authors. (Older material may be out of copyright).
O Rosemary, I am going to love this!!! I will paste one, an erasure poem, that I wrote way back for Izzie. If you go to the link, you can read it there also. I posted there the sources and the words/letters that I used from the article are printed in red. That was a fun write for me, the poem??ReplyDelete
"my Erasure Poem for Wednesday:
Wire to wire .
The five-year-old was scooped up and kissed
Angel may've learned that from his dog
He loves to kiss with everybody
Overall he became a terror .
He once was early bred and still fresh
By night he be pooped. So eat a steak
Kinky doings show up well. Fancy that
He who loves all is seen to win none "
By Jimmiehov 2014
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Poem Copyright © 2014 Jimmiehov. All Rights Reserved
http://jimmiehov6.blogspot.com/2014/02/wednesday-challenge-fancy-that-kid.html (paste this in your URL source)
That was a fun piece, Jim! I was going to remind you we like new pieces for Weekly Scribblings (and hastily added that to my post) then I realised – duh! – that is why you posted the old one here in the comments rather than linking to it. Perfect! Looking forward to what you'll come up with now.Delete
PS I did visit your blog to see your source. You did very well!Delete
And the new one is just wonderful!Delete
Happy Wednesday to all. Thanks for an intriguing prompt RosemaryReplyDelete
You're welcome! Happy day to you too.Delete
Hi Rosemary thanks for visiting my collection at Lunch Break. I was a bit slow in constructing my post so when you visited only the oldies were in My new find is from Spenser and its in . The post is now complete. I am still struggling with the new blogger html.ReplyDelete
Oh great, will go back and have a look.Delete
And yes, we're all struggling with that!
This was fun...Thanks for the challenge !ReplyDelete
You're so welcome! Thanks for your beautiful response to it.Delete
A dream challenge for me as it creates new avenues for discovery, and journey. Thank you Rosemary.
Delighted to have been a catalyst for that for you, Helen!Delete
Hi again Rosemary.ReplyDelete
Thanks for dropping by to read my 'new find'.
I was a member of Found Haiku at Facebook, it is one of those groups that fizzled out with time. The oldies at my post today were a few of the found haiku i had posted to the group when we were an active lively group☺
I think I must have discovered it a bit later – or maybe a bit earlier – as I used to post there too but don't recall seeing your name. People, including me, do still post there occasionally, but it's not all that often one spontaneously 'finds' a haiku.Delete
Rosemary, as you might already know, I really enjoyed this one. I love so many things about found writing--the treasures it births into the world, the ideas it pulls out of the seeker's mind, what it says about the two... I can't wait to see what everyone has crafted.ReplyDelete
Happiest readings, everyone!
I love where you took your writing for this prompt, somewhere different from what's described in this post. Can only repeat what I said at your blog – so well found and put together!Delete
Fascinating. I would like to see more of Judy's work, but found no URL to find her. Help!ReplyDelete
I have to say I spent forEVER clipping lines, pasting, scanning (which my Cannon persists in hiding) and fiddling with a very poor example, and finally wrestled it into some semblance of form....not to my liking. I'm sitting this one out!!!
Bev, you can find more of Judy's work here: https://chocolateisaverb.wordpress.com/.Delete
Sorry, Bev, for not thinking it through that not everyone is on Instagram or Bloglovin'. I have now added Judy's blog url to my post, albeit a bit belatedly.
And, dear Bev, I know the feeling of struggling with erasures! My own attempt is far from successful. Makes one realise how talented the successful practitioners are. But there are other options for this prompt, if you'd still like to join in once you've recovered from the struggle – and several people took them! I do hope you'll enjoy other people's efforts anyway, and perhaps get re-inspired.
Thank you and I will be back Friday morning and enjoy my coffee and visiting everyone's poetry! Off to help my son with 7th grade math...ReplyDelete
Very much enjoyed yours, Margaret!Delete
Thanks, Rosemary -- and Magaly! A fun read, and I'm honored to be included. Judy (also on Instagram @jikleinberg)ReplyDelete
Glad you enjoyed it, Judy!Delete